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How decisions get made a year after a merger

Finished 10 of 10 people answered Deep Study A logistics group formed from two regional carriers

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Written by Lontra from 10 conversations, 4 shared documents and 5 Deep Study conversations.

The answer

The merger works on paper, but decisions still go through each company’s former managers.

It is not disloyalty to the model. People take urgent and money decisions to whoever answers in twenty minutes, and the route in the model takes two to four days.

What people said

People still check with their former manager before acting 8 of 10 people Strong signal

Six people described ringing or messaging the manager they reported to before the merger before they act, the HR partner described staff doing it, and the regional director described taking those calls. It happens on both sides, usually by phone, and the formal request follows afterwards or not at all.

“I ring my old boss first.”Depot manager, 9 years in role
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  1. “I ring my old boss first.”

    Depot manager, 9 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Depot manager, 9 years in role · Large northern depot, 60 staff, came from the northern carrier

    Lontra

    Since the merger, when something at your depot needs a decision, who do you go to?

    Depot manager

    Depends what it is. Routes, I'm meant to go to the regional operations lead now. But if there's money in it I ring my old boss first. He's not my boss any more, officially. He'll tell me in two minutes whether it's a yes.

    Lontra

    What happens after the call?

    Depot manager

    Then I send it through the proper route, with his answer already in my head. If he says no I don't bother sending it.

    Lontra

    Can you think of a case from the last few weeks?

    Depot manager

    A client wanted a pallet load delivered outside the normal cut-off. About three hundred pounds of extra driver time. I rang him, he said do it, I did it and sent the form afterwards.

    Lontra

    What came back on the form?

    Depot manager

    Approved. Three days later. By then the pallets were delivered.

    Lontra

    Is three days normal for the new route?

    Depot manager

    Two to four. Him, twenty minutes. You can see why I ring him.

    Lontra

    Is anything written down about those calls?

    Depot manager

    I keep a log, for my own cover really. I've attached March.

    Lontra

    In your log, the re-delivery on 12 March shows the model route as the regional operations lead and the decision by your former line manager, and then the same request appears again with a 71 in the last column. What is the second line?

    Depot manager

    That's the form. I sent it after, like I said. 71 hours is how long it took them to approve something I'd already done.

    Lontra

    Do you know what the spend limit is for a depot manager now?

    Depot manager

    Mine's two thousand. Was before, still is as far as I know. I went to the briefing, I couldn't tell you what the slide said.

  2. “He answers quicker than the process does.”

    Finance business partner, 4 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Finance business partner, 4 years in role · Supports two regions, came from the southern carrier

    Lontra

    What does a finance business partner do when a depot wants to spend more than planned?

    Finance business partner

    In theory the approval goes by the new limits. In practice depots send me the request and I don't know which limits apply. There are two tables. I keep both open.

    Lontra

    When did that last cause a problem?

    Finance business partner

    Agency cover for a northern depot, twenty-four hundred. Under the northern table that was over the depot manager's limit. Under the southern one it was fine. The system let it through because it only knows the old tables.

    Lontra

    Who decides which table wins?

    Finance business partner

    Nobody's told me. I've asked twice.

    Lontra

    Who did you ask?

    Finance business partner

    The integration team. First time they said it was being finalised. Second time they said use the target model. But the system isn't loaded with it.

    Lontra

    Before you approve something like that, who do you check with?

    Finance business partner

    My old finance director. Different team now, same building. I message him, is this right? He answers quicker than the process does.

    Lontra

    Do you have the tables written down?

    Finance business partner

    I do, I can share them.

  3. “My old manager. He knows the vehicles.”

    Fleet supervisor, 12 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Fleet supervisor, 12 years in role · Vehicle maintenance, southern site

    Lontra

    When a vehicle is off the road and you need a decision on repair or hire, who do you go to?

    Fleet supervisor

    Same as before.

    Lontra

    Who is that?

    Fleet supervisor

    My old manager. He knows the vehicles.

    Lontra

    Has that changed since the merger?

    Fleet supervisor

    On paper.

    Lontra

    What is different on paper?

    Fleet supervisor

    Some form.

    Lontra

    Do you use the form?

    Fleet supervisor

    When they ask.

    Lontra

    Why the phone and not the form?

    Fleet supervisor

    Form takes days. Van's off the road today.

    Lontra

    Anything else you'd want people to know?

    Fleet supervisor

    No. It works.

  4. “My old lead. Obviously.”

    Transport planning team leader, 2 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Transport planning team leader, 2 years in role · Plans routes for the southern depots

    Lontra

    How do you work with the northern planners?

    Transport planning team leader

    Fine. We have a joint call.

    Lontra

    What happens in the joint call?

    Transport planning team leader

    People say what they've already agreed. Mostly.

    Lontra

    How does a route change get agreed?

    Transport planning team leader

    It depends.

    Lontra

    Depends on what?

    Transport planning team leader

    Who's around.

    Lontra

    Could you give me an example from last week?

    Transport planning team leader

    Not really. Normally we just sort it.

    Lontra

    Who is "we"?

    Transport planning team leader

    Me and, you know, whoever knows.

    Lontra

    Who do you ask when you aren't sure?

    Transport planning team leader

    My old lead. Obviously. And sometimes the dispatcher at the hub.

    Lontra

    Anything you'd change?

    Transport planning team leader

    Not sure. It's fine.

Two sets of approval limits are still in use, and nobody has said which one wins 5 of 10 people Strong signal

Depot managers work to the limit they remember: 2,000 in the north, 5,000 in the south, 3,000 in the target model. The finance system only holds the old tables, so it accepts requests the model would also accept and some it would not.

“I work to five because nobody's told me not to.”Depot manager, 6 years in role
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  1. “I work to five because nobody's told me not to.”

    Depot manager, 6 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Depot manager, 6 years in role · Regional depot, 35 staff, came from the southern carrier

    Lontra

    When something at your depot needs a decision, who do you go to?

    Depot manager

    Me, mostly. I decide it myself now. That's the point of the new model, we're trusted to decide.

    Lontra

    What was the last decision that went beyond you?

    Depot manager

    We were short of drivers and needed agency cover for a week, about two grand. I rang the old operations director's office, the person who used to sign those, just to check.

    Lontra

    You said you decide it yourself now, and then you called the person who used to sign. Help me understand that.

    Depot manager

    Fair. Both. For small things it's me. For anything I'd have needed a signature for before, I check. Not asking permission. Just making sure I'm not told off later.

    Lontra

    What would being told off look like?

    Depot manager

    Nobody's said it. But in the old company if you spent without asking, you heard about it. I don't know yet if that's still true.

    Lontra

    Did you use the form in the new model?

    Depot manager

    No. Anything urgent, I can't wait two days. So the call.

    Lontra

    Which spend limit do you work to?

    Depot manager

    Ours was five thousand. I think the new one's less. I work to five because nobody's told me not to.

    Lontra

    How do the joint planning calls fit in?

    Depot manager

    The joint call on Monday is where we announce things, not where we decide them. We've already agreed by then, on our own call on Friday.

  2. “Nobody's told me. I've asked twice.”

    Finance business partner, 4 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Finance business partner, 4 years in role · Supports two regions, came from the southern carrier

    Lontra

    What does a finance business partner do when a depot wants to spend more than planned?

    Finance business partner

    In theory the approval goes by the new limits. In practice depots send me the request and I don't know which limits apply. There are two tables. I keep both open.

    Lontra

    When did that last cause a problem?

    Finance business partner

    Agency cover for a northern depot, twenty-four hundred. Under the northern table that was over the depot manager's limit. Under the southern one it was fine. The system let it through because it only knows the old tables.

    Lontra

    Who decides which table wins?

    Finance business partner

    Nobody's told me. I've asked twice.

    Lontra

    Who did you ask?

    Finance business partner

    The integration team. First time they said it was being finalised. Second time they said use the target model. But the system isn't loaded with it.

    Lontra

    Before you approve something like that, who do you check with?

    Finance business partner

    My old finance director. Different team now, same building. I message him, is this right? He answers quicker than the process does.

    Lontra

    Do you have the tables written down?

    Finance business partner

    I do, I can share them.

  3. “Whichever one they remember.”

    Regional director, 8 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Regional director, 8 years in role · Northern region, came from the northern carrier

    Lontra

    Since the merger, how are decisions made in your region?

    Regional director

    Better than people think. The decision rights are clear, they're in the model, I've sent them to every depot manager twice.

    Lontra

    And in practice, do you see the model being followed?

    Regional director

    Mostly. I do still get calls. Depot managers from the old company ring me about things that should go to the regional operations lead. I tell them who to call, they thank me, and then they ring again the month after.

    Lontra

    How many a week?

    Regional director

    Four or five. Not a lot. But they're the same four or five people.

    Lontra

    What do you think is behind it?

    Regional director

    Habit, trust. They know me. It isn't disrespect for the model.

    Lontra

    Which limits do depot managers work to?

    Regional director

    Whichever one they remember. I've had a northern depot manager and a southern one sign the same kind of thing, one at two thousand and one at five.

    Lontra

    What would you want to happen?

    Regional director

    I'd rather the model worked fast than I stopped answering my phone. If I stop answering, somebody's driver doesn't get paid.

  4. “Mine's two thousand. Was before, still is as far as I know.”

    Depot manager, 9 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Depot manager, 9 years in role · Large northern depot, 60 staff, came from the northern carrier

    Lontra

    Since the merger, when something at your depot needs a decision, who do you go to?

    Depot manager

    Depends what it is. Routes, I'm meant to go to the regional operations lead now. But if there's money in it I ring my old boss first. He's not my boss any more, officially. He'll tell me in two minutes whether it's a yes.

    Lontra

    What happens after the call?

    Depot manager

    Then I send it through the proper route, with his answer already in my head. If he says no I don't bother sending it.

    Lontra

    Can you think of a case from the last few weeks?

    Depot manager

    A client wanted a pallet load delivered outside the normal cut-off. About three hundred pounds of extra driver time. I rang him, he said do it, I did it and sent the form afterwards.

    Lontra

    What came back on the form?

    Depot manager

    Approved. Three days later. By then the pallets were delivered.

    Lontra

    Is three days normal for the new route?

    Depot manager

    Two to four. Him, twenty minutes. You can see why I ring him.

    Lontra

    Is anything written down about those calls?

    Depot manager

    I keep a log, for my own cover really. I've attached March.

    Lontra

    In your log, the re-delivery on 12 March shows the model route as the regional operations lead and the decision by your former line manager, and then the same request appears again with a 71 in the last column. What is the second line?

    Depot manager

    That's the form. I sent it after, like I said. 71 hours is how long it took them to approve something I'd already done.

    Lontra

    Do you know what the spend limit is for a depot manager now?

    Depot manager

    Mine's two thousand. Was before, still is as far as I know. I went to the briefing, I couldn't tell you what the slide said.

The route in the model takes days, so urgent things go the old way 5 of 10 people Strong signal

Where the model's route is a form or a ticket, people quote two to four days against minutes by phone. Nobody described avoiding the route out of disregard; the item was due that day.

“Two to four. Him, twenty minutes.”Depot manager, 9 years in role
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  1. “Two to four. Him, twenty minutes.”

    Depot manager, 9 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Depot manager, 9 years in role · Large northern depot, 60 staff, came from the northern carrier

    Lontra

    Since the merger, when something at your depot needs a decision, who do you go to?

    Depot manager

    Depends what it is. Routes, I'm meant to go to the regional operations lead now. But if there's money in it I ring my old boss first. He's not my boss any more, officially. He'll tell me in two minutes whether it's a yes.

    Lontra

    What happens after the call?

    Depot manager

    Then I send it through the proper route, with his answer already in my head. If he says no I don't bother sending it.

    Lontra

    Can you think of a case from the last few weeks?

    Depot manager

    A client wanted a pallet load delivered outside the normal cut-off. About three hundred pounds of extra driver time. I rang him, he said do it, I did it and sent the form afterwards.

    Lontra

    What came back on the form?

    Depot manager

    Approved. Three days later. By then the pallets were delivered.

    Lontra

    Is three days normal for the new route?

    Depot manager

    Two to four. Him, twenty minutes. You can see why I ring him.

    Lontra

    Is anything written down about those calls?

    Depot manager

    I keep a log, for my own cover really. I've attached March.

    Lontra

    In your log, the re-delivery on 12 March shows the model route as the regional operations lead and the decision by your former line manager, and then the same request appears again with a 71 in the last column. What is the second line?

    Depot manager

    That's the form. I sent it after, like I said. 71 hours is how long it took them to approve something I'd already done.

    Lontra

    Do you know what the spend limit is for a depot manager now?

    Depot manager

    Mine's two thousand. Was before, still is as far as I know. I went to the briefing, I couldn't tell you what the slide said.

  2. “Anything urgent, I can't wait two days.”

    Depot manager, 6 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Depot manager, 6 years in role · Regional depot, 35 staff, came from the southern carrier

    Lontra

    When something at your depot needs a decision, who do you go to?

    Depot manager

    Me, mostly. I decide it myself now. That's the point of the new model, we're trusted to decide.

    Lontra

    What was the last decision that went beyond you?

    Depot manager

    We were short of drivers and needed agency cover for a week, about two grand. I rang the old operations director's office, the person who used to sign those, just to check.

    Lontra

    You said you decide it yourself now, and then you called the person who used to sign. Help me understand that.

    Depot manager

    Fair. Both. For small things it's me. For anything I'd have needed a signature for before, I check. Not asking permission. Just making sure I'm not told off later.

    Lontra

    What would being told off look like?

    Depot manager

    Nobody's said it. But in the old company if you spent without asking, you heard about it. I don't know yet if that's still true.

    Lontra

    Did you use the form in the new model?

    Depot manager

    No. Anything urgent, I can't wait two days. So the call.

    Lontra

    Which spend limit do you work to?

    Depot manager

    Ours was five thousand. I think the new one's less. I work to five because nobody's told me not to.

    Lontra

    How do the joint planning calls fit in?

    Depot manager

    The joint call on Monday is where we announce things, not where we decide them. We've already agreed by then, on our own call on Friday.

  3. “Form takes days. Van's off the road today.”

    Fleet supervisor, 12 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Fleet supervisor, 12 years in role · Vehicle maintenance, southern site

    Lontra

    When a vehicle is off the road and you need a decision on repair or hire, who do you go to?

    Fleet supervisor

    Same as before.

    Lontra

    Who is that?

    Fleet supervisor

    My old manager. He knows the vehicles.

    Lontra

    Has that changed since the merger?

    Fleet supervisor

    On paper.

    Lontra

    What is different on paper?

    Fleet supervisor

    Some form.

    Lontra

    Do you use the form?

    Fleet supervisor

    When they ask.

    Lontra

    Why the phone and not the form?

    Fleet supervisor

    Form takes days. Van's off the road today.

    Lontra

    Anything else you'd want people to know?

    Fleet supervisor

    No. It works.

The HR and finance systems still point at the old line managers 4 of 10 people Emerging

Holiday, absence and appraisals, and the approval tables, follow whatever the system holds. For 54 of 140 people in operations and support the line manager in the HR system is still the former one, so the request goes there.

“My timesheet goes to a manager who left the team in the spring.”Planning analyst, 18 months in role
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  1. “My timesheet goes to a manager who left the team in the spring.”

    Planning analyst, 18 months in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Planning analyst, 18 months in role · Joined after the merger, reports to a planning lead from the southern carrier

    Lontra

    You joined after the merger. When your team needs a decision, how does it get made?

    Planning analyst

    I ask whoever's in the chat who knows. Mostly the two senior planners. One's from the north, one's from the south. They don't always agree.

    Lontra

    What happens then?

    Planning analyst

    I do what the one who answered first said. Then I tell the other.

    Lontra

    Do you know who owns route changes in the new model?

    Planning analyst

    The regional operations lead, I think. I've never asked her anything. She's never in the chat.

    Lontra

    Where do you notice the two old companies still?

    Planning analyst

    My timesheet goes to a manager who left the team in the spring. I don't know why. Holiday requests go there too and she forwards them on.

    Lontra

    And the planning calls?

    Planning analyst

    There are two Mondays, really. The joint one at ten is polite. The real ones are the north at nine and the south at half past.

  2. “Holiday, absence and appraisals go to whoever the system says.”

    HR business partner, 5 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: HR business partner, 5 years in role · Covers depots from both carriers, came from the northern carrier

    Lontra

    Where do you see the old reporting lines showing up in your work?

    HR business partner

    In the system, mostly. We changed the org chart in January for the operations teams. The line manager field in the HR system was only updated for about sixty percent, I think. I'd have to pull the numbers.

    Lontra

    What does that mean day to day?

    HR business partner

    Holiday, absence and appraisals go to whoever the system says. So people ask their old manager because that's who gets the request.

    Lontra

    And outside the system?

    HR business partner

    Managers who've taken over a team from the other company tell me staff still bring the thing to the person they trust. It isn't disloyalty. They know who answers.

    Lontra

    Do people come to you about it?

    HR business partner

    Yes. Mostly to ask who to ask.

    Lontra

    What do you tell them?

    HR business partner

    The model says the role. But I know the role doesn't always pick up. So I tell them the role, and then I say ring the old manager if it's urgent. Which I shouldn't.

    Lontra

    Why shouldn't you?

    HR business partner

    Because it keeps the old route alive. But I'd rather the driver gets paid.

    Lontra

    Could you share the report you mentioned?

    HR business partner

    I'll pull it, yes.

  3. “About half the old lines are still in there.”

    Integration programme lead, 14 months in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Integration programme lead, 14 months in role · Owns the target operating model

    Lontra

    What was the target operating model meant to change?

    Integration programme lead

    Decision rights, mostly. One page per function: who decides what, up to which limit. We published it in November and ran a briefing for every depot manager in December.

    Lontra

    How do you know whether people are using it?

    Integration programme lead

    Honestly, from the escalations that reach me. Which means I see what goes wrong. I don't see the quiet phone calls.

    Lontra

    What do you hear about those?

    Integration programme lead

    Not much. People don't tell the programme they rang their old boss. Why would they?

    Lontra

    You've shared the model. Section 4.2 sends credit notes above 5% of contract value to the Commercial lead as a single point of approval. How is that working?

    Integration programme lead

    She gets two or three a week. Last year's volumes across both companies would put it at nine or ten.

    Lontra

    What do you make of the gap?

    Integration programme lead

    Either volumes have fallen or they're being decided somewhere else. I can't prove which.

    Lontra

    Have you been able to check?

    Integration programme lead

    I asked for the numbers from both billing teams. I've had one answer.

    Lontra

    What about the reporting lines in the HR system?

    Integration programme lead

    About half the old lines are still in there. That's on HR's list, waiting for the final structure, which is mine. So I'm told.

    Lontra

    What do you mean, so you're told?

    Integration programme lead

    I thought we'd sent it. I need to check what we sent.

The joint planning call is where decisions are announced, not made 3 of 10 people Emerging

Each side agrees its plan on its own call first. The joint Monday call confirms what has been settled, which is why newer joiners describe it as polite and the experienced planners as for show.

“The joint call on Monday is where we announce things, not where we decide them.”Depot manager, 6 years in role
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  1. “The joint call on Monday is where we announce things, not where we decide them.”

    Depot manager, 6 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Depot manager, 6 years in role · Regional depot, 35 staff, came from the southern carrier

    Lontra

    When something at your depot needs a decision, who do you go to?

    Depot manager

    Me, mostly. I decide it myself now. That's the point of the new model, we're trusted to decide.

    Lontra

    What was the last decision that went beyond you?

    Depot manager

    We were short of drivers and needed agency cover for a week, about two grand. I rang the old operations director's office, the person who used to sign those, just to check.

    Lontra

    You said you decide it yourself now, and then you called the person who used to sign. Help me understand that.

    Depot manager

    Fair. Both. For small things it's me. For anything I'd have needed a signature for before, I check. Not asking permission. Just making sure I'm not told off later.

    Lontra

    What would being told off look like?

    Depot manager

    Nobody's said it. But in the old company if you spent without asking, you heard about it. I don't know yet if that's still true.

    Lontra

    Did you use the form in the new model?

    Depot manager

    No. Anything urgent, I can't wait two days. So the call.

    Lontra

    Which spend limit do you work to?

    Depot manager

    Ours was five thousand. I think the new one's less. I work to five because nobody's told me not to.

    Lontra

    How do the joint planning calls fit in?

    Depot manager

    The joint call on Monday is where we announce things, not where we decide them. We've already agreed by then, on our own call on Friday.

  2. “The joint one at ten is polite.”

    Planning analyst, 18 months in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Planning analyst, 18 months in role · Joined after the merger, reports to a planning lead from the southern carrier

    Lontra

    You joined after the merger. When your team needs a decision, how does it get made?

    Planning analyst

    I ask whoever's in the chat who knows. Mostly the two senior planners. One's from the north, one's from the south. They don't always agree.

    Lontra

    What happens then?

    Planning analyst

    I do what the one who answered first said. Then I tell the other.

    Lontra

    Do you know who owns route changes in the new model?

    Planning analyst

    The regional operations lead, I think. I've never asked her anything. She's never in the chat.

    Lontra

    Where do you notice the two old companies still?

    Planning analyst

    My timesheet goes to a manager who left the team in the spring. I don't know why. Holiday requests go there too and she forwards them on.

    Lontra

    And the planning calls?

    Planning analyst

    There are two Mondays, really. The joint one at ten is polite. The real ones are the north at nine and the south at half past.

  3. “People say what they've already agreed.”

    Transport planning team leader, 2 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Transport planning team leader, 2 years in role · Plans routes for the southern depots

    Lontra

    How do you work with the northern planners?

    Transport planning team leader

    Fine. We have a joint call.

    Lontra

    What happens in the joint call?

    Transport planning team leader

    People say what they've already agreed. Mostly.

    Lontra

    How does a route change get agreed?

    Transport planning team leader

    It depends.

    Lontra

    Depends on what?

    Transport planning team leader

    Who's around.

    Lontra

    Could you give me an example from last week?

    Transport planning team leader

    Not really. Normally we just sort it.

    Lontra

    Who is "we"?

    Transport planning team leader

    Me and, you know, whoever knows.

    Lontra

    Who do you ask when you aren't sure?

    Transport planning team leader

    My old lead. Obviously. And sometimes the dispatcher at the hub.

    Lontra

    Anything you'd change?

    Transport planning team leader

    Not sure. It's fine.

Where accounts differ

Whether the decision rights are clear

The people who wrote and sent the model say the rights are clear and the briefings were given. The people who have to use them say they know the role for some things and not for the ones that carry money.

Programme and region leadership 2 people
  1. “The decision rights are clear, they're in the model, I've sent them to every depot manager twice.”

    Regional director, 8 years in role

    Open the conversation

    Excerpt from the conversation with: Regional director, 8 years in role · Northern region, came from the northern carrier

    Lontra

    Since the merger, how are decisions made in your region?

    Regional director

    Better than people think. The decision rights are clear, they're in the model, I've sent them to every depot manager twice.

    Lontra

    And in practice, do you see the model being followed?

    Regional director

    Mostly. I do still get calls. Depot managers from the old company ring me about things that should go to the regional operations lead. I tell them who to call, they thank me, and then they ring again the month after.

    Lontra

    How many a week?

    Regional director

    Four or five. Not a lot. But they're the same four or five people.

    Lontra

    What do you think is behind it?

    Regional director

    Habit, trust. They know me. It isn't disrespect for the model.

    Lontra

    Which limits do depot managers work to?

    Regional director

    Whichever one they remember. I've had a northern depot manager and a southern one sign the same kind of thing, one at two thousand and one at five.

    Lontra

    What would you want to happen?

    Regional director

    I'd rather the model worked fast than I stopped answering my phone. If I stop answering, somebody's driver doesn't get paid.

  2. “We published it in November and ran a briefing for every depot manager in December.”

    Integration programme lead, 14 months in role

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    Lontra

    What was the target operating model meant to change?

    Integration programme lead

    Decision rights, mostly. One page per function: who decides what, up to which limit. We published it in November and ran a briefing for every depot manager in December.

    Lontra

    How do you know whether people are using it?

    Integration programme lead

    Honestly, from the escalations that reach me. Which means I see what goes wrong. I don't see the quiet phone calls.

    Lontra

    What do you hear about those?

    Integration programme lead

    Not much. People don't tell the programme they rang their old boss. Why would they?

    Lontra

    You've shared the model. Section 4.2 sends credit notes above 5% of contract value to the Commercial lead as a single point of approval. How is that working?

    Integration programme lead

    She gets two or three a week. Last year's volumes across both companies would put it at nine or ten.

    Lontra

    What do you make of the gap?

    Integration programme lead

    Either volumes have fallen or they're being decided somewhere else. I can't prove which.

    Lontra

    Have you been able to check?

    Integration programme lead

    I asked for the numbers from both billing teams. I've had one answer.

    Lontra

    What about the reporting lines in the HR system?

    Integration programme lead

    About half the old lines are still in there. That's on HR's list, waiting for the final structure, which is mine. So I'm told.

    Lontra

    What do you mean, so you're told?

    Integration programme lead

    I thought we'd sent it. I need to check what we sent.

In depots and support teams 3 people
  1. “I went to the briefing, I couldn't tell you what the slide said.”

    Depot manager, 9 years in role

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    Lontra

    Since the merger, when something at your depot needs a decision, who do you go to?

    Depot manager

    Depends what it is. Routes, I'm meant to go to the regional operations lead now. But if there's money in it I ring my old boss first. He's not my boss any more, officially. He'll tell me in two minutes whether it's a yes.

    Lontra

    What happens after the call?

    Depot manager

    Then I send it through the proper route, with his answer already in my head. If he says no I don't bother sending it.

    Lontra

    Can you think of a case from the last few weeks?

    Depot manager

    A client wanted a pallet load delivered outside the normal cut-off. About three hundred pounds of extra driver time. I rang him, he said do it, I did it and sent the form afterwards.

    Lontra

    What came back on the form?

    Depot manager

    Approved. Three days later. By then the pallets were delivered.

    Lontra

    Is three days normal for the new route?

    Depot manager

    Two to four. Him, twenty minutes. You can see why I ring him.

    Lontra

    Is anything written down about those calls?

    Depot manager

    I keep a log, for my own cover really. I've attached March.

    Lontra

    In your log, the re-delivery on 12 March shows the model route as the regional operations lead and the decision by your former line manager, and then the same request appears again with a 71 in the last column. What is the second line?

    Depot manager

    That's the form. I sent it after, like I said. 71 hours is how long it took them to approve something I'd already done.

    Lontra

    Do you know what the spend limit is for a depot manager now?

    Depot manager

    Mine's two thousand. Was before, still is as far as I know. I went to the briefing, I couldn't tell you what the slide said.

  2. “Nobody's told me. I've asked twice.”

    Finance business partner, 4 years in role

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    Lontra

    What does a finance business partner do when a depot wants to spend more than planned?

    Finance business partner

    In theory the approval goes by the new limits. In practice depots send me the request and I don't know which limits apply. There are two tables. I keep both open.

    Lontra

    When did that last cause a problem?

    Finance business partner

    Agency cover for a northern depot, twenty-four hundred. Under the northern table that was over the depot manager's limit. Under the southern one it was fine. The system let it through because it only knows the old tables.

    Lontra

    Who decides which table wins?

    Finance business partner

    Nobody's told me. I've asked twice.

    Lontra

    Who did you ask?

    Finance business partner

    The integration team. First time they said it was being finalised. Second time they said use the target model. But the system isn't loaded with it.

    Lontra

    Before you approve something like that, who do you check with?

    Finance business partner

    My old finance director. Different team now, same building. I message him, is this right? He answers quicker than the process does.

    Lontra

    Do you have the tables written down?

    Finance business partner

    I do, I can share them.

  3. “I've never been told which of the two rule sets wins, so I don't use it, I ask someone.”

    Client service team leader, 7 years in role

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    Lontra

    How do your team and the southern claims team work together day to day?

    Client service team leader

    Works fine day to day, honestly. We share a queue now. The trouble is when a client is owed compensation.

    Lontra

    What happens then?

    Client service team leader

    Different rules. Ours is we refund up to fifty pounds without checking. Theirs checks from twenty-five. So on the grey ones I ask my old manager what to do. Then the southern claims lead tells me something else.

    Lontra

    When did that last happen?

    Client service team leader

    Tuesday. Damaged parcel, forty-pound order. Took me two hours to get an answer because I asked both.

    Lontra

    Is there a route for it in the new model?

    Client service team leader

    There's a ticket. Two days. I've never been told which of the two rule sets wins, so I don't use it, I ask someone.

    Lontra

    What did you do with Tuesday's?

    Client service team leader

    Paid it. Said sorry to the client. Then told both of them I'd paid it.

    Lontra

    If you had to pick one of them next time?

    Client service team leader

    Mine. I know she'll answer.

Documents

Target operating model, operations (extract) Shared by a participant

Version 3.1 of the model, from the section on who decides what. Five rules, each naming a role. The depot manager's spend limit sits in an annex.

Shared by: Integration programme lead, 14 months in role

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TARGET OPERATING MODEL, OPERATIONS (EXTRACT)

Version 3.1. Applies to all depots and support teams from 1 January.

4. Decision rights

4.1 Route and capacity changes within a region: Regional operations lead. Depot managers propose; decision within two working days.

4.2 Credit notes and pricing exceptions above 5% of contract value: Commercial lead (single point of approval). Requests go through the exceptions form.

4.3 Overtime above the weekly team cap: Regional operations lead.

4.4 Spend up to the limit in Annex B: depot manager. Above it: regional operations lead, then regional director.

4.5 Former reporting lines end on 1 January. Staff take operational questions to the role named above.

What Lontra asked about it

Excerpt from the conversation with: Integration programme lead, 14 months in role · Owns the target operating model

Lontra

What was the target operating model meant to change?

Integration programme lead

Decision rights, mostly. One page per function: who decides what, up to which limit. We published it in November and ran a briefing for every depot manager in December.

Lontra

How do you know whether people are using it?

Integration programme lead

Honestly, from the escalations that reach me. Which means I see what goes wrong. I don't see the quiet phone calls.

Lontra

What do you hear about those?

Integration programme lead

Not much. People don't tell the programme they rang their old boss. Why would they?

Lontra

You've shared the model. Section 4.2 sends credit notes above 5% of contract value to the Commercial lead as a single point of approval. How is that working?

Integration programme lead

She gets two or three a week. Last year's volumes across both companies would put it at nine or ten.

Lontra

What do you make of the gap?

Integration programme lead

Either volumes have fallen or they're being decided somewhere else. I can't prove which.

Lontra

Have you been able to check?

Integration programme lead

I asked for the numbers from both billing teams. I've had one answer.

Lontra

What about the reporting lines in the HR system?

Integration programme lead

About half the old lines are still in there. That's on HR's list, waiting for the final structure, which is mine. So I'm told.

Lontra

What do you mean, so you're told?

Integration programme lead

I thought we'd sent it. I need to check what we sent.

Exceptions log, northern depot, March (extract) Shared by a participant

A depot manager's own record of six exception requests. Three were decided by phone with a former line manager in under two hours; the same request through the model's route took 71 hours.

Shared by: Depot manager, 9 years in role

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DateRequestCost (GBP)Route in the modelDecided byHours to decision
04 MarLate collection for a retail client120Depot managerDepot manager0
07 MarOvertime above weekly cap (6 drivers)840Regional operations leadFormer line manager (phone)1
12 MarRe-delivery outside cut-off300Regional operations leadFormer line manager (phone)0.3
12 MarSame request sent through the form300Regional operations leadRegional operations lead71
19 MarCredit note over 5% of contract value1450Commercial leadFormer line manager (phone)2
26 MarReplacement pallet jack hire260Depot managerDepot manager0

What Lontra asked about it

Excerpt from the conversation with: Depot manager, 9 years in role · Large northern depot, 60 staff, came from the northern carrier

Lontra

Since the merger, when something at your depot needs a decision, who do you go to?

Depot manager

Depends what it is. Routes, I'm meant to go to the regional operations lead now. But if there's money in it I ring my old boss first. He's not my boss any more, officially. He'll tell me in two minutes whether it's a yes.

Lontra

What happens after the call?

Depot manager

Then I send it through the proper route, with his answer already in my head. If he says no I don't bother sending it.

Lontra

Can you think of a case from the last few weeks?

Depot manager

A client wanted a pallet load delivered outside the normal cut-off. About three hundred pounds of extra driver time. I rang him, he said do it, I did it and sent the form afterwards.

Lontra

What came back on the form?

Depot manager

Approved. Three days later. By then the pallets were delivered.

Lontra

Is three days normal for the new route?

Depot manager

Two to four. Him, twenty minutes. You can see why I ring him.

Lontra

Is anything written down about those calls?

Depot manager

I keep a log, for my own cover really. I've attached March.

Lontra

In your log, the re-delivery on 12 March shows the model route as the regional operations lead and the decision by your former line manager, and then the same request appears again with a 71 in the last column. What is the second line?

Depot manager

That's the form. I sent it after, like I said. 71 hours is how long it took them to approve something I'd already done.

Lontra

Do you know what the spend limit is for a depot manager now?

Depot manager

Mine's two thousand. Was before, still is as far as I know. I went to the briefing, I couldn't tell you what the slide said.

Approval limits by role, old and new Shared by a participant

The finance partner's side-by-side of the northern limits, the southern limits and the target model's. For a depot manager they are 2,000, 5,000 and 3,000.

Shared by: Finance business partner, 4 years in role · Shared during Deep Study

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The line Lontra asked about is marked.

RoleNorthern limit (GBP)Southern limit (GBP)Target model limit (GBP)
Depot manager200050003000
Regional operations lead100001500010000
Commercial lead500050007500
Regional director500004000040000

What Lontra asked about it

Excerpt from the Deep Study conversation with: Finance business partner, 4 years in role · Supports two regions, came from the southern carrier

Lontra

You said you keep both approval tables open. Could you share them?

Finance business partner

Attached. The three columns on the right are the northern limit, the southern limit and the target model.

Lontra

In your table the depot manager is 2,000 in the north, 5,000 in the south and 3,000 in the target model. What did the agency cover for the northern depot need?

Finance business partner

Under the target model, 3,000, so it was fine. Under the northern table it wasn't. The system said yes.

Lontra

Has anyone told depots that the 3,000 figure applies?

Finance business partner

Not in writing, as far as I know. It's in an annex of the model. I only found it because I went looking.

Lontra

How many requests last month fell between the old limit and the new one?

Finance business partner

Eleven that I know of. Six where the limit went up, five where it went down. Nobody's been refused yet.

Lontra

Yet?

Finance business partner

I mean nobody's been told no. I don't know what happens the first time somebody is.

Reporting lines: HR system against the target model Shared by a participant

Operations and support teams, 140 people. For 54 of them the line manager in the HR system is still the one from before the merger; transport planning has the highest share.

Shared by: HR business partner, 5 years in role · Shared during Deep Study

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TeamHeadcountLine manager matches target modelLine manager still the former one
Depot management and supervisors463115
Transport planning22913
Client service38308
Fleet and maintenance241014
Finance partners1064
Total1408654

What Lontra asked about it

Excerpt from the Deep Study conversation with: HR business partner, 5 years in role · Covers depots from both carriers, came from the northern carrier

Lontra

You mentioned you'd pull the report on reporting lines. What does it show?

HR business partner

I've attached it. It matches the org chart against the line manager field in the system, team by team.

Lontra

In your table transport planning has 13 of 22 still pointing at the former manager, more than any other team. Why is that?

HR business partner

Planning moved twice. The first move used the old cost centres. The second was never loaded. I only noticed when planning staff asked who approved their leave.

Lontra

What would it take to correct them?

HR business partner

A data load. A couple of days for us. But we need the programme to confirm the final lines.

Lontra

Who is waiting on whom?

HR business partner

I thought they were waiting on me. I've just been told they think I'm waiting on them.

Lontra

How many people in total are affected?

HR business partner

Fifty-four of the hundred and forty. About what I guessed overall. Planning is the surprise.

What we still don’t know

  • Whether credit notes have fallen in volume or are being decided somewhere else.The Commercial lead sees two or three a week where last year's volumes would suggest nine or ten. The programme lead has had numbers from one billing team and is waiting on the other, so this study cannot say which explanation holds.
  • Which definition of a late parcel client contracts follow.The southern hub counts a parcel late after midnight and the northern depots after six in the evening. The dispatcher, who gets the calls, could not say which is right and nobody in the study could tell him.

Deep Study

Five days after the last first-round conversation, Deep Study went back to four people whose answers left a question open, and spoke to one colleague a participant suggested.

Finance business partner, 4 years in role Asked again

Keeps two approval tables open and asked twice which one wins. How many requests fall between them?

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HR business partner, 5 years in role Asked again

Estimated sixty percent of reporting lines had been updated and offered to pull the report.

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Regional director, 8 years in role Asked again

Said the decision rights are clear and also takes four or five calls a week from the same people.

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Transport planning team leader, 2 years in role Asked again

Answered "it depends" throughout. Could they give one real case?

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Dispatch coordinator, 10 years in role Suggested by: Transport planning team leader, 2 years in role

Suggested by the transport planning team leader: the person everyone phones, who knows what is actually decided.

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What Deep Study added

  • The reporting line is still the former manager's for 54 of 140 people. Transport planning, a team nobody had flagged, is the worst, with 13 of 22.
  • HR and the programme each believe the other is holding up the correction: HR is waiting for the final structure, the programme thought it had sent it.
  • Eleven approvals last month fell between the old and the new limit. Nobody was refused, so nobody has yet been told which table wins.
  • The regional director takes the calls but had never told the Commercial lead that people still bring credit notes to him.
  • A person with no place in the model, the southern hub dispatcher, now takes about twenty calls a day, double the number before, because the northern depots found his number.

Who took part

People are described by their role and context, as in any Lontra study.

  • Depot manager, 9 years in role Large northern depot, 60 staff, came from the northern carrier · 22 min

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    Excerpt from the conversation with: Depot manager, 9 years in role · Large northern depot, 60 staff, came from the northern carrier

    Lontra

    Since the merger, when something at your depot needs a decision, who do you go to?

    Depot manager

    Depends what it is. Routes, I'm meant to go to the regional operations lead now. But if there's money in it I ring my old boss first. He's not my boss any more, officially. He'll tell me in two minutes whether it's a yes.

    Lontra

    What happens after the call?

    Depot manager

    Then I send it through the proper route, with his answer already in my head. If he says no I don't bother sending it.

    Lontra

    Can you think of a case from the last few weeks?

    Depot manager

    A client wanted a pallet load delivered outside the normal cut-off. About three hundred pounds of extra driver time. I rang him, he said do it, I did it and sent the form afterwards.

    Lontra

    What came back on the form?

    Depot manager

    Approved. Three days later. By then the pallets were delivered.

    Lontra

    Is three days normal for the new route?

    Depot manager

    Two to four. Him, twenty minutes. You can see why I ring him.

    Lontra

    Is anything written down about those calls?

    Depot manager

    I keep a log, for my own cover really. I've attached March.

    Lontra

    In your log, the re-delivery on 12 March shows the model route as the regional operations lead and the decision by your former line manager, and then the same request appears again with a 71 in the last column. What is the second line?

    Depot manager

    That's the form. I sent it after, like I said. 71 hours is how long it took them to approve something I'd already done.

    Lontra

    Do you know what the spend limit is for a depot manager now?

    Depot manager

    Mine's two thousand. Was before, still is as far as I know. I went to the briefing, I couldn't tell you what the slide said.

  • Depot manager, 6 years in role Regional depot, 35 staff, came from the southern carrier · 17 min

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    Lontra

    When something at your depot needs a decision, who do you go to?

    Depot manager

    Me, mostly. I decide it myself now. That's the point of the new model, we're trusted to decide.

    Lontra

    What was the last decision that went beyond you?

    Depot manager

    We were short of drivers and needed agency cover for a week, about two grand. I rang the old operations director's office, the person who used to sign those, just to check.

    Lontra

    You said you decide it yourself now, and then you called the person who used to sign. Help me understand that.

    Depot manager

    Fair. Both. For small things it's me. For anything I'd have needed a signature for before, I check. Not asking permission. Just making sure I'm not told off later.

    Lontra

    What would being told off look like?

    Depot manager

    Nobody's said it. But in the old company if you spent without asking, you heard about it. I don't know yet if that's still true.

    Lontra

    Did you use the form in the new model?

    Depot manager

    No. Anything urgent, I can't wait two days. So the call.

    Lontra

    Which spend limit do you work to?

    Depot manager

    Ours was five thousand. I think the new one's less. I work to five because nobody's told me not to.

    Lontra

    How do the joint planning calls fit in?

    Depot manager

    The joint call on Monday is where we announce things, not where we decide them. We've already agreed by then, on our own call on Friday.

  • Finance business partner, 4 years in role Supports two regions, came from the southern carrier · 15 min

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    Lontra

    What does a finance business partner do when a depot wants to spend more than planned?

    Finance business partner

    In theory the approval goes by the new limits. In practice depots send me the request and I don't know which limits apply. There are two tables. I keep both open.

    Lontra

    When did that last cause a problem?

    Finance business partner

    Agency cover for a northern depot, twenty-four hundred. Under the northern table that was over the depot manager's limit. Under the southern one it was fine. The system let it through because it only knows the old tables.

    Lontra

    Who decides which table wins?

    Finance business partner

    Nobody's told me. I've asked twice.

    Lontra

    Who did you ask?

    Finance business partner

    The integration team. First time they said it was being finalised. Second time they said use the target model. But the system isn't loaded with it.

    Lontra

    Before you approve something like that, who do you check with?

    Finance business partner

    My old finance director. Different team now, same building. I message him, is this right? He answers quicker than the process does.

    Lontra

    Do you have the tables written down?

    Finance business partner

    I do, I can share them.

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    Lontra

    You said you keep both approval tables open. Could you share them?

    Finance business partner

    Attached. The three columns on the right are the northern limit, the southern limit and the target model.

    Lontra

    In your table the depot manager is 2,000 in the north, 5,000 in the south and 3,000 in the target model. What did the agency cover for the northern depot need?

    Finance business partner

    Under the target model, 3,000, so it was fine. Under the northern table it wasn't. The system said yes.

    Lontra

    Has anyone told depots that the 3,000 figure applies?

    Finance business partner

    Not in writing, as far as I know. It's in an annex of the model. I only found it because I went looking.

    Lontra

    How many requests last month fell between the old limit and the new one?

    Finance business partner

    Eleven that I know of. Six where the limit went up, five where it went down. Nobody's been refused yet.

    Lontra

    Yet?

    Finance business partner

    I mean nobody's been told no. I don't know what happens the first time somebody is.

  • Client service team leader, 7 years in role Claims and delivery queries, 14 agents, came from the northern carrier · 12 min

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    Lontra

    How do your team and the southern claims team work together day to day?

    Client service team leader

    Works fine day to day, honestly. We share a queue now. The trouble is when a client is owed compensation.

    Lontra

    What happens then?

    Client service team leader

    Different rules. Ours is we refund up to fifty pounds without checking. Theirs checks from twenty-five. So on the grey ones I ask my old manager what to do. Then the southern claims lead tells me something else.

    Lontra

    When did that last happen?

    Client service team leader

    Tuesday. Damaged parcel, forty-pound order. Took me two hours to get an answer because I asked both.

    Lontra

    Is there a route for it in the new model?

    Client service team leader

    There's a ticket. Two days. I've never been told which of the two rule sets wins, so I don't use it, I ask someone.

    Lontra

    What did you do with Tuesday's?

    Client service team leader

    Paid it. Said sorry to the client. Then told both of them I'd paid it.

    Lontra

    If you had to pick one of them next time?

    Client service team leader

    Mine. I know she'll answer.

  • Planning analyst, 18 months in role Joined after the merger, reports to a planning lead from the southern carrier · 9 min

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    Lontra

    You joined after the merger. When your team needs a decision, how does it get made?

    Planning analyst

    I ask whoever's in the chat who knows. Mostly the two senior planners. One's from the north, one's from the south. They don't always agree.

    Lontra

    What happens then?

    Planning analyst

    I do what the one who answered first said. Then I tell the other.

    Lontra

    Do you know who owns route changes in the new model?

    Planning analyst

    The regional operations lead, I think. I've never asked her anything. She's never in the chat.

    Lontra

    Where do you notice the two old companies still?

    Planning analyst

    My timesheet goes to a manager who left the team in the spring. I don't know why. Holiday requests go there too and she forwards them on.

    Lontra

    And the planning calls?

    Planning analyst

    There are two Mondays, really. The joint one at ten is polite. The real ones are the north at nine and the south at half past.

  • Fleet supervisor, 12 years in role Vehicle maintenance, southern site · 5 min

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    Lontra

    When a vehicle is off the road and you need a decision on repair or hire, who do you go to?

    Fleet supervisor

    Same as before.

    Lontra

    Who is that?

    Fleet supervisor

    My old manager. He knows the vehicles.

    Lontra

    Has that changed since the merger?

    Fleet supervisor

    On paper.

    Lontra

    What is different on paper?

    Fleet supervisor

    Some form.

    Lontra

    Do you use the form?

    Fleet supervisor

    When they ask.

    Lontra

    Why the phone and not the form?

    Fleet supervisor

    Form takes days. Van's off the road today.

    Lontra

    Anything else you'd want people to know?

    Fleet supervisor

    No. It works.

  • HR business partner, 5 years in role Covers depots from both carriers, came from the northern carrier · 19 min

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    Lontra

    Where do you see the old reporting lines showing up in your work?

    HR business partner

    In the system, mostly. We changed the org chart in January for the operations teams. The line manager field in the HR system was only updated for about sixty percent, I think. I'd have to pull the numbers.

    Lontra

    What does that mean day to day?

    HR business partner

    Holiday, absence and appraisals go to whoever the system says. So people ask their old manager because that's who gets the request.

    Lontra

    And outside the system?

    HR business partner

    Managers who've taken over a team from the other company tell me staff still bring the thing to the person they trust. It isn't disloyalty. They know who answers.

    Lontra

    Do people come to you about it?

    HR business partner

    Yes. Mostly to ask who to ask.

    Lontra

    What do you tell them?

    HR business partner

    The model says the role. But I know the role doesn't always pick up. So I tell them the role, and then I say ring the old manager if it's urgent. Which I shouldn't.

    Lontra

    Why shouldn't you?

    HR business partner

    Because it keeps the old route alive. But I'd rather the driver gets paid.

    Lontra

    Could you share the report you mentioned?

    HR business partner

    I'll pull it, yes.

    Excerpt from the Deep Study conversation with: HR business partner, 5 years in role · Covers depots from both carriers, came from the northern carrier

    Lontra

    You mentioned you'd pull the report on reporting lines. What does it show?

    HR business partner

    I've attached it. It matches the org chart against the line manager field in the system, team by team.

    Lontra

    In your table transport planning has 13 of 22 still pointing at the former manager, more than any other team. Why is that?

    HR business partner

    Planning moved twice. The first move used the old cost centres. The second was never loaded. I only noticed when planning staff asked who approved their leave.

    Lontra

    What would it take to correct them?

    HR business partner

    A data load. A couple of days for us. But we need the programme to confirm the final lines.

    Lontra

    Who is waiting on whom?

    HR business partner

    I thought they were waiting on me. I've just been told they think I'm waiting on them.

    Lontra

    How many people in total are affected?

    HR business partner

    Fifty-four of the hundred and forty. About what I guessed overall. Planning is the surprise.

  • Integration programme lead, 14 months in role Owns the target operating model · 23 min

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    Excerpt from the conversation with: Integration programme lead, 14 months in role · Owns the target operating model

    Lontra

    What was the target operating model meant to change?

    Integration programme lead

    Decision rights, mostly. One page per function: who decides what, up to which limit. We published it in November and ran a briefing for every depot manager in December.

    Lontra

    How do you know whether people are using it?

    Integration programme lead

    Honestly, from the escalations that reach me. Which means I see what goes wrong. I don't see the quiet phone calls.

    Lontra

    What do you hear about those?

    Integration programme lead

    Not much. People don't tell the programme they rang their old boss. Why would they?

    Lontra

    You've shared the model. Section 4.2 sends credit notes above 5% of contract value to the Commercial lead as a single point of approval. How is that working?

    Integration programme lead

    She gets two or three a week. Last year's volumes across both companies would put it at nine or ten.

    Lontra

    What do you make of the gap?

    Integration programme lead

    Either volumes have fallen or they're being decided somewhere else. I can't prove which.

    Lontra

    Have you been able to check?

    Integration programme lead

    I asked for the numbers from both billing teams. I've had one answer.

    Lontra

    What about the reporting lines in the HR system?

    Integration programme lead

    About half the old lines are still in there. That's on HR's list, waiting for the final structure, which is mine. So I'm told.

    Lontra

    What do you mean, so you're told?

    Integration programme lead

    I thought we'd sent it. I need to check what we sent.

  • Regional director, 8 years in role Northern region, came from the northern carrier · 20 min

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    Excerpt from the conversation with: Regional director, 8 years in role · Northern region, came from the northern carrier

    Lontra

    Since the merger, how are decisions made in your region?

    Regional director

    Better than people think. The decision rights are clear, they're in the model, I've sent them to every depot manager twice.

    Lontra

    And in practice, do you see the model being followed?

    Regional director

    Mostly. I do still get calls. Depot managers from the old company ring me about things that should go to the regional operations lead. I tell them who to call, they thank me, and then they ring again the month after.

    Lontra

    How many a week?

    Regional director

    Four or five. Not a lot. But they're the same four or five people.

    Lontra

    What do you think is behind it?

    Regional director

    Habit, trust. They know me. It isn't disrespect for the model.

    Lontra

    Which limits do depot managers work to?

    Regional director

    Whichever one they remember. I've had a northern depot manager and a southern one sign the same kind of thing, one at two thousand and one at five.

    Lontra

    What would you want to happen?

    Regional director

    I'd rather the model worked fast than I stopped answering my phone. If I stop answering, somebody's driver doesn't get paid.

    Excerpt from the Deep Study conversation with: Regional director, 8 years in role · Northern region, came from the northern carrier

    Lontra

    You said four or five calls a week come from the same people. What are they about?

    Regional director

    I went through my phone. Mostly overtime and credit notes. Money in some way.

    Lontra

    The model sends credit notes to the Commercial lead. Does she know people still call you?

    Regional director

    No. I've never told her. I told them to ring her, I didn't ring her myself.

    Lontra

    What kept you from telling her?

    Regional director

    I didn't want to make it about the individuals.

    Lontra

    Is there a way to tell her without that?

    Regional director

    Give her the numbers, not the names. Four or five a week. And ask if she wants the calls or wants a deputy in each depot.

  • Transport planning team leader, 2 years in role Plans routes for the southern depots · 7 min

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    Lontra

    How do you work with the northern planners?

    Transport planning team leader

    Fine. We have a joint call.

    Lontra

    What happens in the joint call?

    Transport planning team leader

    People say what they've already agreed. Mostly.

    Lontra

    How does a route change get agreed?

    Transport planning team leader

    It depends.

    Lontra

    Depends on what?

    Transport planning team leader

    Who's around.

    Lontra

    Could you give me an example from last week?

    Transport planning team leader

    Not really. Normally we just sort it.

    Lontra

    Who is "we"?

    Transport planning team leader

    Me and, you know, whoever knows.

    Lontra

    Who do you ask when you aren't sure?

    Transport planning team leader

    My old lead. Obviously. And sometimes the dispatcher at the hub.

    Lontra

    Anything you'd change?

    Transport planning team leader

    Not sure. It's fine.

    Excerpt from the Deep Study conversation with: Transport planning team leader, 2 years in role · Plans routes for the southern depots

    Lontra

    You said it depends who's around. Could you give me one real case from the last month where you weren't sure who to ask?

    Transport planning team leader

    OK. We needed to move the north-south trunk departure by an hour. I rang the dispatcher at the southern hub, because he'd know whether the drivers' hours would work. Then I told my old lead. The regional operations lead I only told afterwards.

    Lontra

    Who is the dispatcher to you?

    Transport planning team leader

    He's the person everybody phones. When I started, my old lead said, ask him, he knows what's actually decided.

    Lontra

    Would he be worth speaking to?

    Transport planning team leader

    Yes. He'll tell you what's decided before anyone's written it down.

    Lontra

    Is there anything about that trunk change that still isn't settled?

    Transport planning team leader

    The cut-off. We thought it didn't matter, and then the north said it did.

  • Dispatch coordinator, 10 years in role Southern hub, the person drivers and depots phone first · 10 min · joined in Deep Study

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    Lontra

    People tell me you're the person they phone. What do they phone you about?

    Dispatch coordinator

    Anything with a truck in it. Is the driver legal, can I swap a load, can we hold a van.

    Lontra

    Who decides those in the new model?

    Dispatch coordinator

    The regional operations lead, apparently. I've never spoken to her. I get twenty calls a day from north and south now. It was ten before.

    Lontra

    What changed?

    Dispatch coordinator

    The northern depots have my number now. They didn't before. They found out it's quicker.

    Lontra

    Quicker than what?

    Dispatch coordinator

    Than waiting on a form.

    Lontra

    Is there anything people ask you that you can't answer?

    Dispatch coordinator

    What counts as late. At the southern hub we've always said a parcel is late after midnight. The north says six in the evening. A client rang last month about one. I said midnight, then his account manager said six. Nobody's told me which is right.

About this study

The question

“I want to understand how teams from the two merged companies really work together a year after the merger, where they clash, and which old habits still divide them.”

A logistics group formed from two regional carriers. Ten people took part: two depot managers, a regional director, a finance partner, an HR partner, a client service team leader, a planning analyst, a transport planning team leader, a fleet supervisor and the integration programme lead. Each conversation lasted 5 to 23 minutes. Deep Study went back to four of them and spoke to one colleague a participant suggested.

What Lontra asked about

  1. Who people go to when something needs a decision
  2. What happens when the model's route and the old route differ
  3. Where old reporting lines and approval limits still sit in the systems
  4. What would make the new route the first choice

Ask your results

Answers from 10 conversations and 4 documents

These are questions the organiser asked about this study. Each answer shows the quotes it rests on.

Which decisions still go to the former manager?

The ones with money in them and the ones that cannot wait. Depot managers, a finance partner and a team leader all describe spend above an old limit, overtime above the cap, credit notes and client compensation. Routine decisions inside the depot go through as the model says.

In the one depot log shared, three of five separate requests in March were decided by phone with a former line manager, in under two hours. The same request sent through the form took 71 hours.

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“I ring my old boss first.”
Depot manager, 9 years in role
2
“So on the grey ones I ask my old manager what to do.”
Client service team leader, 7 years in role
3
“71 hours is how long it took them to approve something I'd already done.”
Depot manager, 9 years in role
Is this a habit of people from one of the two companies?

No. Depot managers from the northern carrier and from the southern one describe the same thing. The one person who does not is the planning analyst who joined after the merger and has no former manager: he asks whoever in the chat answers first.

Only one person joined after the merger, so this study cannot say whether newer joiners behave differently as a group.

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“I rang the old operations director's office, the person who used to sign those, just to check.”
Depot manager, 6 years in role
2
“if there's money in it I ring my old boss first.”
Depot manager, 9 years in role
3
“I do what the one who answered first said.”
Planning analyst, 18 months in role
Does the target operating model say what people should do?

Yes, and clearly, for the decision rights themselves. Section 4.5 ends the former reporting lines on 1 January. What the model does not control is what sits around it: the finance system still holds the old limit tables, the HR system still sends requests to the former manager for 54 people, and the depot manager's limit is in an annex that a finance partner found only by looking.

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“Decision rights, mostly.”
Integration programme lead, 14 months in role
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“It's in an annex of the model. I only found it because I went looking.”
Finance business partner, 4 years in role · Deep Study
3
“Planning moved twice.”
HR business partner, 5 years in role · Deep Study
Did anyone say it works?

Two people did. The regional director and the programme lead describe the model as clear and briefed. At working level, the shared claims queue is described as working day to day, and the fleet supervisor said the arrangement works, even though he still goes to his old manager.

The programme lead said her view comes from escalations, which mostly show what goes wrong.

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“Better than people think.”
Regional director, 8 years in role
2
“Works fine day to day, honestly.”
Client service team leader, 7 years in role
3
“No. It works.”
Fleet supervisor, 12 years in role

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